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		<title>By: Lucretia M Pruitt</title>
		<link>http://thesocialjoint.com/2010/05/socmed-dirty-little-secret/comment-page-1/#comment-207</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucretia M Pruitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 02:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love that you are looking at the parallels as well. Nothing has really changed about polite behavior - but the tools fool some people into thinking that &#039;everything is different&#039; when so much has stayed the same.

I often refer to Social Media Marketing as 19th-century marketing with 21st-century tools.  Reputation, honesty, word-of-mouth, referrals - those things were around long before there were non-geographic-dependent mediums to use them in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love that you are looking at the parallels as well. Nothing has really changed about polite behavior &#8211; but the tools fool some people into thinking that &#8216;everything is different&#8217; when so much has stayed the same.</p>
<p>I often refer to Social Media Marketing as 19th-century marketing with 21st-century tools.  Reputation, honesty, word-of-mouth, referrals &#8211; those things were around long before there were non-geographic-dependent mediums to use them in.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucretia M Pruitt</title>
		<link>http://thesocialjoint.com/2010/05/socmed-dirty-little-secret/comment-page-1/#comment-208</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucretia M Pruitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 02:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love that you are looking at the parallels as well. Nothing has really changed about polite behavior - but the tools fool some people into thinking that &#039;everything is different&#039; when so much has stayed the same.

I often refer to Social Media Marketing as 19th-century marketing with 21st-century tools.  Reputation, honesty, word-of-mouth, referrals - those things were around long before there were non-geographic-dependent mediums to use them in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love that you are looking at the parallels as well. Nothing has really changed about polite behavior &#8211; but the tools fool some people into thinking that &#8216;everything is different&#8217; when so much has stayed the same.</p>
<p>I often refer to Social Media Marketing as 19th-century marketing with 21st-century tools.  Reputation, honesty, word-of-mouth, referrals &#8211; those things were around long before there were non-geographic-dependent mediums to use them in.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucretia M Pruitt</title>
		<link>http://thesocialjoint.com/2010/05/socmed-dirty-little-secret/comment-page-1/#comment-206</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucretia M Pruitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 02:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sort of wondering if I&#039;m hallucinating that I replied to several comments already including this one... since they aren&#039;t here and I&#039;m not sure they ever posted. 
But I&#039;m 100% with you on that - it&#039;s okay to say what your intention is.  But it&#039;s also polite to respect the nature of your relationship. 

I&#039;ve had a couple of companies get it right on Twitter with me - I profiled one recently.  But yes, it&#039;s rather corporate culture in just a different medium.  If you don&#039;t see customer service as a profit center rather than a cost center? You won&#039;t put any resources into getting it right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sort of wondering if I&#8217;m hallucinating that I replied to several comments already including this one&#8230; since they aren&#8217;t here and I&#8217;m not sure they ever posted.<br />
But I&#8217;m 100% with you on that &#8211; it&#8217;s okay to say what your intention is.  But it&#8217;s also polite to respect the nature of your relationship. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had a couple of companies get it right on Twitter with me &#8211; I profiled one recently.  But yes, it&#8217;s rather corporate culture in just a different medium.  If you don&#8217;t see customer service as a profit center rather than a cost center? You won&#8217;t put any resources into getting it right.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucretia M Pruitt</title>
		<link>http://thesocialjoint.com/2010/05/socmed-dirty-little-secret/comment-page-1/#comment-205</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucretia M Pruitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Sep 2010 01:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I swear I replied to this forever ago Todd, but I&#039;m not seeing it... so if there was already a reply in your inbox? I apologize.  But enough time has gone by that maybe this will be entirely new &amp; different! ;)

No seriously, to address your point? I see no problem with wanting both types of contacts.  I do!  I have my Socializer side and my Marketer side too.  Sometimes I just want to go to the game with my friend who has an extra ticket because I know he &amp; I share a love of the Broncos.  Sometimes I just want to hang out on Facebook, Twitter, or online with someone because I know we&#039;re friends with mutual interests.
I just kind of got tired of everyone leaving off &quot;marketing&quot; when that&#039;s what they were there for. 
If my services fit a friend&#039;s need? I&#039;m likely to say &quot;you know, that is what I do - I&#039;d be happy to talk shop with you.&quot;  But I&#039;m also just as likely to tell someone trying hard to close a sale at a social event &quot;look, just give the guy your card and tell him you&#039;d love to talk with him at a more appropriate time - we&#039;re trying to relax here.&quot;
Thanks for weighing in Todd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I swear I replied to this forever ago Todd, but I&#8217;m not seeing it&#8230; so if there was already a reply in your inbox? I apologize.  But enough time has gone by that maybe this will be entirely new &amp; different! ;)</p>
<p>No seriously, to address your point? I see no problem with wanting both types of contacts.  I do!  I have my Socializer side and my Marketer side too.  Sometimes I just want to go to the game with my friend who has an extra ticket because I know he &amp; I share a love of the Broncos.  Sometimes I just want to hang out on Facebook, Twitter, or online with someone because I know we&#8217;re friends with mutual interests.<br />
I just kind of got tired of everyone leaving off &#8220;marketing&#8221; when that&#8217;s what they were there for.<br />
If my services fit a friend&#8217;s need? I&#8217;m likely to say &#8220;you know, that is what I do &#8211; I&#8217;d be happy to talk shop with you.&#8221;  But I&#8217;m also just as likely to tell someone trying hard to close a sale at a social event &#8220;look, just give the guy your card and tell him you&#8217;d love to talk with him at a more appropriate time &#8211; we&#8217;re trying to relax here.&#8221;<br />
Thanks for weighing in Todd.</p>
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		<title>By: jacky</title>
		<link>http://thesocialjoint.com/2010/05/socmed-dirty-little-secret/comment-page-1/#comment-112</link>
		<dc:creator>jacky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 16:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is an interesting article , but i believe it is all true, everything is about social media these days and the use of technology to make our lives easier, in fact i recently came across this company taskrabbit.com that allows   you to hire background checked  runners  to  complete your daily errands or tasks for you at a price that you set yourself, and the best part is that it is all done over thier secure website , just an other example of social media and growing technology</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is an interesting article , but i believe it is all true, everything is about social media these days and the use of technology to make our lives easier, in fact i recently came across this company taskrabbit.com that allows   you to hire background checked  runners  to  complete your daily errands or tasks for you at a price that you set yourself, and the best part is that it is all done over thier secure website , just an other example of social media and growing technology</p>
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		<title>By: jacky</title>
		<link>http://thesocialjoint.com/2010/05/socmed-dirty-little-secret/comment-page-1/#comment-186</link>
		<dc:creator>jacky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 16:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is an interesting article , but i believe it is all true, everything is about social media these days and the use of technology to make our lives easier, in fact i recently came across this company taskrabbit.com that allows   you to hire background checked  runners  to  complete your daily errands or tasks for you at a price that you set yourself, and the best part is that it is all done over thier secure website , just an other example of social media and growing technology</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is an interesting article , but i believe it is all true, everything is about social media these days and the use of technology to make our lives easier, in fact i recently came across this company taskrabbit.com that allows   you to hire background checked  runners  to  complete your daily errands or tasks for you at a price that you set yourself, and the best part is that it is all done over thier secure website , just an other example of social media and growing technology</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine Warman Kern</title>
		<link>http://thesocialjoint.com/2010/05/socmed-dirty-little-secret/comment-page-1/#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>Katherine Warman Kern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 10:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Relating the virtual world&#039;s to the physical world is an excellent way to reveal the &quot;as-yet-to-be-figured-out&quot; problems/opportunities.  We&#039;ve been thinking about this one a lot because in the physical world, the identity and therefore intent of a commercial &quot;socializer&quot; vs. a non-commercial &quot;socializer&quot; and their interrelationships is transparent.   

For example, the golfers know who is selling and who is buying.   And they take their offer for the tickets to the box seats in context.  

And, if someone is out of line, pitching their deal in a social setting, in the physical world, everyone pretty much shuts them down with some friendly verbal jabs.

Katherine Warman Kern
@comradity</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Relating the virtual world&#8217;s to the physical world is an excellent way to reveal the &#8220;as-yet-to-be-figured-out&#8221; problems/opportunities.  We&#8217;ve been thinking about this one a lot because in the physical world, the identity and therefore intent of a commercial &#8220;socializer&#8221; vs. a non-commercial &#8220;socializer&#8221; and their interrelationships is transparent.   </p>
<p>For example, the golfers know who is selling and who is buying.   And they take their offer for the tickets to the box seats in context.  </p>
<p>And, if someone is out of line, pitching their deal in a social setting, in the physical world, everyone pretty much shuts them down with some friendly verbal jabs.</p>
<p>Katherine Warman Kern<br />
@comradity</p>
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		<title>By: Katherine Warman Kern</title>
		<link>http://thesocialjoint.com/2010/05/socmed-dirty-little-secret/comment-page-1/#comment-185</link>
		<dc:creator>Katherine Warman Kern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 10:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Relating the virtual world&#039;s to the physical world is an excellent way to reveal the &quot;as-yet-to-be-figured-out&quot; problems/opportunities.  We&#039;ve been thinking about this one a lot because in the physical world, the identity and therefore intent of a commercial &quot;socializer&quot; vs. a non-commercial &quot;socializer&quot; and their interrelationships is transparent.   

For example, the golfers know who is selling and who is buying.   And they take their offer for the tickets to the box seats in context.  

And, if someone is out of line, pitching their deal in a social setting, in the physical world, everyone pretty much shuts them down with some friendly verbal jabs.

Katherine Warman Kern
@comradity</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Relating the virtual world&#8217;s to the physical world is an excellent way to reveal the &#8220;as-yet-to-be-figured-out&#8221; problems/opportunities.  We&#8217;ve been thinking about this one a lot because in the physical world, the identity and therefore intent of a commercial &#8220;socializer&#8221; vs. a non-commercial &#8220;socializer&#8221; and their interrelationships is transparent.   </p>
<p>For example, the golfers know who is selling and who is buying.   And they take their offer for the tickets to the box seats in context.  </p>
<p>And, if someone is out of line, pitching their deal in a social setting, in the physical world, everyone pretty much shuts them down with some friendly verbal jabs.</p>
<p>Katherine Warman Kern<br />
@comradity</p>
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		<title>By: Staci J. Shellton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Staci J. Shellton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 10:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post!!  

Marketing has changed a bit, although, yes, people who are truly out to sell something aren&#039;t looking to connect unless you&#039;re willing to buy something.  But the way to do that has shifted a bit.  People want some sort of connection.  We all still buy and support people that we LIKE.  Social Media is a vehicle to attract and then stay connected to the customer. It&#039;s not just a tool for sales.  The companies who think so, fall flat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!!  </p>
<p>Marketing has changed a bit, although, yes, people who are truly out to sell something aren&#8217;t looking to connect unless you&#8217;re willing to buy something.  But the way to do that has shifted a bit.  People want some sort of connection.  We all still buy and support people that we LIKE.  Social Media is a vehicle to attract and then stay connected to the customer. It&#8217;s not just a tool for sales.  The companies who think so, fall flat.</p>
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		<title>By: Social Media Marketing’s Dirty Little Secret &#124; expand social media solutions</title>
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		<dc:creator>Social Media Marketing’s Dirty Little Secret &#124; expand social media solutions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 01:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Say “social media” and see if you can go 2 minutes without someone bringing up the word “relationship.”  via thesocialjoint.com [...]</description>
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